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		<title>by: Steve Sanders</title>
		<link>http://americanliar.com/01/28/2008/ron-paul-trojan-horse-candidate-of-2008/#comment-1677</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 07:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hmmm... So the fat cat CEOs and board members are going to suffer as bad as the rest of us, huh? Somehow I doubt it. A few millions, or tens of millions less in the bank doesn't hurt them in the same way that falling real incomes hurt the middle and working classes. Since the NeoCons have tightened their stranglehold over our government and our economy, the disparity in distribution of wealth in the U.S. has grown increasingly, obscenely, almost exponentially, to the point where we're entering a new age of the Robber Barons.

It's not about class warfare, at least not in the sense that you're hinting at. How unfortunate that you choose to use that transparent canard that's served up by the NeoCons as a diversionary red herring, to get the ignorant proles to believe that standing up for a fair and just economic system should be equated with "class warfare." 

Hey, it's not the middle class and the working class that's waging class warfare—it's the NeoCon corporate billionaires and multi-multi millionaires (not all of them... not all millionaires are corrupt... I'm talking about the NeoCons) and their lackey bedfellows in government that have been waging covert class warfare against US, ever since Ronald Reagan and his cohorts started the ball rolling. Soon as George Bush and his goons hijacked their way into the White House (twice), they've put the program on steroids and, as I said, they've taken the brakes off the train of capitalism. The danger is, it's likely headed for a train wreck, but they won't care—not one whit. They got THEIRS—they'll be sitting fat and happy when the whole thing comes unraveled and, perhaps, China and Saudi Arabia and the other creditors decide to call in their chits—and the rest of us... well, we can just "eat cake" (or shit) for all they care.

Don't make the mistake of characterizing citizens like me who rail against this corporate abuse and excess as being "anti-capitalist." I am NOT anti-capitalist; I happen to be a business owner. I just believe—I KNOW—that capitalism must have some controls placed on it, for one simple reason: The GREED factor! 

Watch the film "Wall Street" again, and listen to Gordon Gecko's pronouncement that "Greed is good!" Sorry, but greed is NOT good. Greed is destructive, and now we're seeing the fallout from this latest orgy of greed (helped along, to be fair, during the Clinton administration... Bill and his minions were members of the NeoCon club, too.) Sure the stock market is tanking! That's a result of these short-sighted, greedy, rake-it-in-while-you-can and damn the consequences NeoCon policies. They really DON'T CARE that they're saddling my children, and your children, and our grandchildren with a massive debt that will be crushing us for decades to come. They got theirs, and we the middle class and working class can just pay the piper for them, suffer the consequences.

Jesus didn't say (as he is often misquoted) that "Money is the root of evil." He said that "&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Love&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; of money (meaning, LUST after money) is the root of evil."

I won't be a defeatist, as you seem to suggest we should, and just sigh and say that "Oh well, no one can touch these NeoCon corporatists. So why bother?" Bob, they have HIJACKED our government, and our democracy (if we can even call it that anymore). It's certainly &lt;strong&gt;not&lt;/strong&gt; a government of "We The People." It is &lt;strong&gt;clearly&lt;/strong&gt; a government of &lt;strong&gt;"We The Corporations."&lt;/strong&gt;

Listen to the words of one of our greatest presidents, and then tell me that you're ready to let these bastards destroy all that we and our forefathers have fought and bled for:

&lt;blockquote&gt;“I see in the future a great crisis approaching, which causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of war, corporations have been enthroned, and an era of corruption in high places will follow. The money-power will endeavor to prolong its reign by working on the prejudices of the people until all the wealth is aggregated into the hands of a few and the republic is destroyed.”

– Abraham Lincoln&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230; So the fat cat CEOs and board members are going to suffer as bad as the rest of us, huh? Somehow I doubt it. A few millions, or tens of millions less in the bank doesn&#8217;t hurt them in the same way that falling real incomes hurt the middle and working classes. Since the NeoCons have tightened their stranglehold over our government and our economy, the disparity in distribution of wealth in the U.S. has grown increasingly, obscenely, almost exponentially, to the point where we&#8217;re entering a new age of the Robber Barons.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not about class warfare, at least not in the sense that you&#8217;re hinting at. How unfortunate that you choose to use that transparent canard that&#8217;s served up by the NeoCons as a diversionary red herring, to get the ignorant proles to believe that standing up for a fair and just economic system should be equated with &#8220;class warfare.&#8221; </p>
<p>Hey, it&#8217;s not the middle class and the working class that&#8217;s waging class warfare—it&#8217;s the NeoCon corporate billionaires and multi-multi millionaires (not all of them&#8230; not all millionaires are corrupt&#8230; I&#8217;m talking about the NeoCons) and their lackey bedfellows in government that have been waging covert class warfare against US, ever since Ronald Reagan and his cohorts started the ball rolling. Soon as George Bush and his goons hijacked their way into the White House (twice), they&#8217;ve put the program on steroids and, as I said, they&#8217;ve taken the brakes off the train of capitalism. The danger is, it&#8217;s likely headed for a train wreck, but they won&#8217;t care—not one whit. They got THEIRS—they&#8217;ll be sitting fat and happy when the whole thing comes unraveled and, perhaps, China and Saudi Arabia and the other creditors decide to call in their chits—and the rest of us&#8230; well, we can just &#8220;eat cake&#8221; (or shit) for all they care.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t make the mistake of characterizing citizens like me who rail against this corporate abuse and excess as being &#8220;anti-capitalist.&#8221; I am NOT anti-capitalist; I happen to be a business owner. I just believe—I KNOW—that capitalism must have some controls placed on it, for one simple reason: The GREED factor! </p>
<p>Watch the film &#8220;Wall Street&#8221; again, and listen to Gordon Gecko&#8217;s pronouncement that &#8220;Greed is good!&#8221; Sorry, but greed is NOT good. Greed is destructive, and now we&#8217;re seeing the fallout from this latest orgy of greed (helped along, to be fair, during the Clinton administration&#8230; Bill and his minions were members of the NeoCon club, too.) Sure the stock market is tanking! That&#8217;s a result of these short-sighted, greedy, rake-it-in-while-you-can and damn the consequences NeoCon policies. They really DON&#8217;T CARE that they&#8217;re saddling my children, and your children, and our grandchildren with a massive debt that will be crushing us for decades to come. They got theirs, and we the middle class and working class can just pay the piper for them, suffer the consequences.</p>
<p>Jesus didn&#8217;t say (as he is often misquoted) that &#8220;Money is the root of evil.&#8221; He said that &#8220;<strong><em>Love</em></strong> of money (meaning, LUST after money) is the root of evil.&#8221;</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t be a defeatist, as you seem to suggest we should, and just sigh and say that &#8220;Oh well, no one can touch these NeoCon corporatists. So why bother?&#8221; Bob, they have HIJACKED our government, and our democracy (if we can even call it that anymore). It&#8217;s certainly <strong>not</strong> a government of &#8220;We The People.&#8221; It is <strong>clearly</strong> a government of <strong>&#8220;We The Corporations.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>Listen to the words of one of our greatest presidents, and then tell me that you&#8217;re ready to let these bastards destroy all that we and our forefathers have fought and bled for:</p>
<blockquote><p>“I see in the future a great crisis approaching, which causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of war, corporations have been enthroned, and an era of corruption in high places will follow. The money-power will endeavor to prolong its reign by working on the prejudices of the people until all the wealth is aggregated into the hands of a few and the republic is destroyed.”</p>
<p>– Abraham Lincoln</p></blockquote>
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		<title>by: Bob D</title>
		<link>http://americanliar.com/01/28/2008/ron-paul-trojan-horse-candidate-of-2008/#comment-1673</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Looks to me that American corporations are about to suffer as bad as the rest of us. Check the stock market. I'm not sure what your soution is. Are you a class warfare advocate? Is your bogey man the rich when you say the corporations? Or the "elites"? Maybe its the multinationals. Ron Paul just does't kid himself that he has any control over those guys. Neither would Obama. Roosevelt couldn't touch them.  And they have more options now than they did then.
How about electing a president who will make the  few positive contributions you speak of that only Ron Paul will do (and some you do't speak of like getting us out of the Iraq war).

Rely on the democrats in congress to stop Ron Paul where you want him stopped!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks to me that American corporations are about to suffer as bad as the rest of us. Check the stock market. I&#8217;m not sure what your soution is. Are you a class warfare advocate? Is your bogey man the rich when you say the corporations? Or the &#8220;elites&#8221;? Maybe its the multinationals. Ron Paul just does&#8217;t kid himself that he has any control over those guys. Neither would Obama. Roosevelt couldn&#8217;t touch them.  And they have more options now than they did then.<br />
How about electing a president who will make the  few positive contributions you speak of that only Ron Paul will do (and some you do&#8217;t speak of like getting us out of the Iraq war).</p>
<p>Rely on the democrats in congress to stop Ron Paul where you want him stopped!!!!!!
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		<title>by: Ron Paul: Trojan Horse Candidate of 2008?</title>
		<link>http://americanliar.com/01/28/2008/ron-paul-trojan-horse-candidate-of-2008/#comment-1664</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] Ron Paulistic &#124; A blog about Ron Paul. Chronicles the latest news from Paul&#226;??s presidential campaign. wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptRon Paul: Trojan Horse Candidate of 2008? By Steve Sanders, January 28, 2008, 11:19 pm I’ve recently heard from a few friends who are considering candidates of choice in the primary elections, who seem to be leaning somewhat in the direction of Ron Paul. I have a few thoughts on this man as a candidate for President of the United States. I do think Ron Paul is fantastic when it comes to defending the Constitution, and pretty good on foreign policy and war, BUT (and this is a big “but” [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Ron Paulistic | A blog about Ron Paul. Chronicles the latest news from Paul&acirc;??s presidential campaign. wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptRon Paul: Trojan Horse Candidate of 2008? By Steve Sanders, January 28, 2008, 11:19 pm I’ve recently heard from a few friends who are considering candidates of choice in the primary elections, who seem to be leaning somewhat in the direction of Ron Paul. I have a few thoughts on this man as a candidate for President of the United States. I do think Ron Paul is fantastic when it comes to defending the Constitution, and pretty good on foreign policy and war, BUT (and this is a big “but” [&#8230;]
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